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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby Hotchillipepper » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:59 pm

Drew, you cannot tell me that we do disagree on all the points?
I am sure you do agree with some of the claims made by owners.
A few:
1) Delivery of gyms: even DPG/Salwan/Taziz recognizes this point in several letters and PR articles: not yet done
2) Audited accounts supposed to be provided after the first year of activity: not yet done. They even provided something that could be labelled as doctored accounts by an obscure auditing company= could lead the company managers to jail in Europe
3) No registered owners association and they keep delaying the paper work to make it happen = shows the will to hurt owners interest.
4) selection of JBR manager: they keep using tricks to appoint own companies in contradiction with the law.without having a competitive bid.
5) Maintenance: same as above
6) Security: a joke
7) Restaurants polluting the buildings garages and apartments : hurts residents health

at different levels this shows DPG is a rogue developer with bad intentions towards owners and residents
With this track record, any court would sentence each and every manager in this company to jail and big indemnities for residents and owners.

on another point:
I was talking to an owners who is looking into suing the European staff in managerial positions in his country.
I don't know what are his chances to succeed but maybe he has a point to put the situation under the light spots in Europe?
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby sands » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:27 am

wow!!! a brand new Mall just on the beach! we were missing it!! what a fortune that DP did not build beach park....
instead of private beach park we are quite near do not have also a simple public beach..
they are littering every where and flushing construction water in the see just in front of our home.
5 year of promises and the point is only heavy traffic, no see view, dust, noise... a very quite and safe place to stay.
They are destroing everything only in the name of profit and money. When this investors will finish whit their new constructions
they will leave and left Dubai as a bin full of trash. NO more wild life sanctuary, no more dunes, no more blu see, only plastic
and cement.
I thought this people were "illuminated" 10 years ago. They had at their disposal all the new and advanced technology and
the experience of the old world to do not the same mistake.
But the point is only one, gold is making them blind, as anyone else in the world.
the only right we have now is to pay service charges and accept all the changes without saying a word!
pay and be quiet!
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby Integrity » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:56 am

It is amazing how some individuals, hired or employed by the culprits, still try to defend and justify all the clear breaches of DP!
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby Integrity » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:24 am

Sands and HCP are spot on!
DP II , the ONLY grey area was whether beach "clubs" would be free or chargeable.
"Beach PARK" was never a grey area , it was and still is a part of the Master Plan and that is CONTRACTUAL.
On the sales and marketing side, many of us chose not to forget the promises "the lush green, serene, tranquil , strolling down the private beach, etc. that were all over the material presented!. If integrity and ethics are kept aside, you can argue that these promises are non-binding!! In any truly civilized place, this would be clear misrepresentation and fraud.

Anyone who likes to think that master plan and community constitution are not relevant or binding , has the same mentality and ill advice that the developer has. The issue remains that there is a poor legal system that does not hold certain government developers accountable, a powerless regulatory authority , and DP knows that and simply take advantage of it.
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby bethany's mum » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:30 pm

Private beach? Are there any private beaches in Dubai? Except for outside the Palaces, obviously.
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby almayer » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:24 pm

bethany's mum wrote:Private beach? Are there any private beaches in Dubai? Except for outside the Palaces, obviously.


Villas on the Palm?
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby bethany's mum » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:21 am

^^^are you asking or telling?

I was under the impression all the beaches were public. I doubt that a section of beach in front of JBR could have been designated 'private'. Who was going to police this private beach?

I certainly don't remember being promised a private beach.
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby Integrity » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:43 pm

It was certainly and very clearly mentioned as private beach, quite similar to what the hotels have!
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby bethany's mum » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:55 am

Integrity wrote:It was certainly and very clearly mentioned as private beach, quite similar to what the hotels have!


The hotels don't have private beaches!! There is nothing private about the beach in front of Hilton, Ritz or Mayden. You can sit on that beach and no one can tell you to move. (I'm not talking about their sunbeds).
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby almayer » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:17 pm

bethany's mum wrote:
Integrity wrote:It was certainly and very clearly mentioned as private beach, quite similar to what the hotels have!


The hotels don't have private beaches!! There is nothing private about the beach in front of Hilton, Ritz or Mayden. You can sit on that beach and no one can tell you to move. (I'm not talking about their sunbeds).


Wrong. Try sitting on the beach at the Hilton or Sheraton and security arrives and tell you to move.
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby bethany's mum » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:51 pm

almayer wrote:
bethany's mum wrote:Wrong. Try sitting on the beach at the Hilton or Sheraton and security arrives and tell you to move.


You need to be more aware of your rights. The beach in front of JBR is a public beach. I often sit on the beach in front of the Ritz or the Hilton and no one has ever told me to move on. I wouldn't if I was told to. The only people I have witnessed being told to move are construction workers.

You don't swim in your underpants, do you?
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby almayer » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:05 pm

bethany's mum wrote:You need to be more aware of your rights. The beach in front of JBR is a public beach. I often sit on the beach in front of the Ritz or the Hilton and no one has ever told me to move on. I wouldn't if I was told to. The only people I have witnessed being told to move are construction workers.

You don't swim in your underpants, do you?


Nope. But the beach at the ritz is far from the property, but not the beach at the Hilton/Sheraton. They even delimited the area where you can swim. And security do come and tell you to move on. Maybe they mistake you for a russian tourist.
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby Hotchillipepper » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:19 pm

Hi Almayer, BM is right the beach is public even the one in front of Hilton.

I witnessed once the guard kicking a lady. I decided to sit there and see what happens.
The guard came to ask me to leave, I asked him to call a manager.
When the Manager came, I asked him to show me a paper that the beach belongs to the hotel, of course he could not.
The Police was passing by and I asked the Manager if he wants me to stop the Police and ask them.... of course the discussion changed immediately and even offered a drink to cool down..... which I refused.
Just to tell you that every monley in Dubai will tend to tell you that the tree belongs to him, until you face him with facts.

The beach is public from waterfront 20 meters back and no hotel can stop you from sitting there or even swimming, the sea is public.
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Re: car park where beach park should be!

Postby almayer » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:38 pm

I thought so, since at least it's like this in Europe, but the few times I did it, especially @ the Sheraton, security was always quite nasty. Then again, if you want to relax (main point of going to the beach) you don't really feel like fighting all the time with hotel security.

In any case, bottom line is always the same, DP is a joke, The Walk is becoming a nightmare (just look at this Eid), and 90% of JBR (Amwaj aside) doesn't have the promised gyms.
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